Tuesday, September 14, 2010

Realisations, 1,2,3.?

"You use punctuation waaaay too much .?#*&&#$@??" - David

1.Religious (Read: Catholic) debate in my head
2.Gradelove, what?

1a.God is either flawed, or incomplete, if we take it from whatever sources we have (eg. Bible)

There are few sources, and what there are, they were produced by humans. Humans are flawed. Thus, either God, if it is a creation of humans, is flawed, or the accounts of his miraculous powers are flawed/incomplete/half-burned. Same with Jesus, but then again, this is also true of any history, I suppose


1b. God is on par with homosexuals, if you want to go into that debate. Quite an injustice really.

For those "minority groups" who believe that homosexuality is "unnatural" and that the "Bible says it's bad", think about this. (Or tell them this.) The most famous story in the Bible is about Jesus' birth. Now, being an atheist, I could be wrong about some minor detail or another, but God essentially tells Mary that she's gonna give birth to a super-man-thing. Joseph, her husband, hasn't touched her yet. However, in some unknown amount of time (to me anyway), she does give birth to this super-man-thing-alchemist-priest-healer without so much as reproduction. So either Joseph has been doing something the Bible didn't document (unlikely), or God has been reproducing by spores and/or magic laser beams. Oh, right. Jesus is explicitly stated to be "God's son". Something or other. Right. Which means God is unnatural, and by the viewpoint of these extremists, should be burned at the stake and whatever, by "God's will", etc. etc. Then again....If God is "otherworldly" then, he can't be "natural" but...He did make stuff "in his image" therefore, by extension if a man and a woman love each other veeery much and.....go out for some "cake" then God must be "natural", which he isn't.

1c. Heaven doesn't exist (Provided by Christine)

Okay, say a girl loves some guy and/or girl very much, they mean to world to said person, etc, and then suddenly die, skipping the Game and going straight to "Heaven", and the other person/s is/are still alive, then, you have 2 scenarios

a. The loved one isn't in heaven with them, cause they're still alive
b. The loved one is replicated and put into the heaven

Take your pick.

Route A means that it's not truly "heaven" for that person, and because, the Bible and all that promotes love between a man and a woman and all that, you can't have someone who won't have that special one. Route B means that you have a fake.

Take your pick.

Anyway, something I thought of when I woke up today and didn't feel like getting up.

2.I don't care who is doing it, it's quite a neat idea, and they're fairly brave. Besides, it's working.

Hoping I'm not terribly wrong, and/or I am wrong and/or you correct me, so that we have talk it over/duke it out with fists over some tea/in an arena.

5 comments:

Harvard said...

I read the entirety of that, and don't mind your opinion. As much good as a conversation in Starbucks could do, I could probably explain it but it'd take a long time for anything to make sense. It would help if you stopped elbowing everyone so much though.

Toan said...

Elbowing...?

Well, do tell. We have all the time in the world.

Renee said...

I read the entirety of that understand what you're trying to say except in 1c in which I can confused as to what it's about.

check the study group page!

Aarun said...

Okay i understand what you're trying to say. but as i believe that out of all the people that will read this, im the only catholic i will first have to combat it.

Name the source please. And then prove to me that its a catholic source.

Secondly, Stating that God is a creation from humans is ironic as it defies all logic that the bible has. not saying that the bible is 100% true/ relevant to modern society. NOte that the bible is not meant to be taken so literally

Okay time to pick one of the flaws in 1b. the bible only states that 'homosexuality is a sin'. THis does not mean that its unnatural just that people take it that way.

Next, i dont get the logic of 1c. seriously. humans may believe that they are going to heaven but if you look through all the indoctrinations of catholic scripture, it actually states that you cant predict that you'll be going to heaven or thrown into the fire of hell :P dont forget there is that middle place called 'purgatory' and now you can go on and rant all about it.

On the gradelove thing. i think your reaction is the same as mine when i first looked at it. lol. now i see the massive amounts of trolling lol.

Aarun said...

but since your an atheist as long as you dont post this on say. my facebook i shouldnt have to care too much.